Re: [Proposal-ish?] Lua should bind the Lua C API as a Lua module

[Dirk Laurie <dirk.laurie@...>]

2017-11-29 13:54 GMT+02:00 Paige DePol <lual@serfnet.org>:
> dyngeccetor8 <dyngeccetor8@disroot.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 11/29/2017 01:49 PM, Paige DePol wrote:
>>> Dirk Laurie <dirk.laurie@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 2017-11-29 3:09 GMT+02:00 Paige DePol <lual@serfnet.org>:
>>>>
>>>>> Nobody was redefining any terms at any time and I really do not see how you
>>>>> think that was the case. At any rate, I have really said all I can say on
>>>>> the subject, with numerous cites from a number of sources to back up what
>>>>> "fork" means. We will just have to agree to disagree on the matter it seems.
>>>>
>>>> Herman Charles Bosman's book "Cold Stone Jug", which describes itself
>>>> as "a chronicle: being the unimpassioned record of a somewhat lengthy
>>>> sojourn in prison", contains the following passage on p.162-163 of the
>>>> 1969 edition:
>>>>
>>>> "The craze for culture and erudition reached its height, and its
>>>> spiritual fulness, over the controversy about what was the difference
>>>> between a quagga ana a zebra. Nobody knew who started that teaser. But
>>>> in no time everybody took it very seriously. It was regarded as a mark
>>>> of educational attainment to be able to recite straight out, word
>>>> perfect, just as it was in the dictionary, the definition of,
>>>> respectively, a zebra and a quagga. ... There were several
>>>> dictionaries in the prison, a couple being kept in the library, and
>>>> one in the printer's shop, and one in the office where they censored
>>>> the letters. And it was noticed, after a while, that in each of these
>>>> dictionaries there was a piece cut out on a page having a lot of words
>>>> beginning with Q, and also a piece removed from a page where the words
>>>> began with Z. ... And if you couldn't recite those two definitions off
>>>> pat, no matter how you mispronounced the words, or how ignorant you
>>>> were of their meaning, then you were regarded as a person with no
>>>> educational attainments."
>>>
>>> I really don't understand what you are trying to say with this quote?
>>>
>>> ~Paige
>>
>> Maybe that it start to look like holy war for the One True Meaning of Fork?
>>
>> -- Martin
>
> Perhaps he was. I am not trying to advocate a "One True Meaning", though I
> guess it seems to have headed that way. I just thought the meaning of "fork"
> was pretty simple and reasonably understood. Heck, I can't even find any
> definitions online that contradict one other really.
>
> I will, however, advocate that perhaps the community should adopt the "soft
> fork" and "hard fork" terminology in order to differentiate compatible and
> incompatible derivatives of Lua. That would be very helpful in my opinion.

I have also seen the term "hostile fork", e.g. with reference to the
ffmpeg/libav tussle.