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- Subject: Re: Issues: Character 160 - Non-breaking space + Additional Issue with UTF-8
- From: Dirk Laurie <dirk.laurie@...>
- Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 15:00:34 +0200
2018-07-12 13:38 GMT+02:00 Frédéric van der Plancke <fvdp@decis.be>:
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> On 10/07/2018 23:56, Gregg Reynolds wrote:
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> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 4:44 PM Gregg Reynolds <dev@mobileink.com> wrote:
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>> (e.g. numbers in ltr scripts).
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> Correction: numbers in rtl scripts. Unicode says that numbers in e.g. Arabic are ltr. This is complete BS, but it is also a fact on the ground that cannot be fixed. Extra credit: estimate the cost of this very fundamental mistake.
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> I'm not sure it's a mistake, it may be a well-though design compromise.
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> In arabic, the numbers are written in the same orientation as we do in european languages, because of a double inversion: from right to left, they first write the unit, then the 10s, then the 100s... the end result being that in both writing systems, the units go to the right and the heavier digits go to the left.
I once was an examiner in a mathematics competition in which some of
the competitors wrote in Arabic. The mathematical formulae were
written as Western mathematicians write them, and so were the numbers.
When I made a remark to this effect to my Algerian colleague, he
responded by asking me to add two ten-digit numbers that he had
written down. Naturally I started at the unit as I was taught in
primary school, and he stopped me right there. "Why do you start the
addition at the right, if you do everthing else from left to right?" I
replied "Because that's how the algorithm works." He then said: "But
it's our algorithm. An Arab mathematician invented it, and it starts
at the right because we write numbers that way."
He was right, you know!
- References:
- Issues: Character 160 - Non-breaking space + Additional Issue with UTF-8, Alysson Cunha
- Re: Issues: Character 160 - Non-breaking space + Additional Issue with UTF-8, Hugo Musso Gualandi
- Re: Issues: Character 160 - Non-breaking space + Additional Issue with UTF-8, Alysson Cunha
- Re: Issues: Character 160 - Non-breaking space + Additional Issue with UTF-8, Axel Kittenberger
- Re: Issues: Character 160 - Non-breaking space + Additional Issue with UTF-8, Lorenzo Donati
- Re: Issues: Character 160 - Non-breaking space + Additional Issue with UTF-8, Albert Chan
- Re: Issues: Character 160 - Non-breaking space + Additional Issue with UTF-8, Sean Conner
- Re: Issues: Character 160 - Non-breaking space + Additional Issue with UTF-8, Lorenzo Donati
- Re: Issues: Character 160 - Non-breaking space + Additional Issue with UTF-8, Dirk Laurie
- Re: Issues: Character 160 - Non-breaking space + Additional Issue with UTF-8, Gregg Reynolds
- Re: Issues: Character 160 - Non-breaking space + Additional Issue with UTF-8, Soni "They/Them" L.
- Re: Issues: Character 160 - Non-breaking space + Additional Issue with UTF-8, Gregg Reynolds
- Re: Issues: Character 160 - Non-breaking space + Additional Issue with UTF-8, Soni "They/Them" L.
- Re: Issues: Character 160 - Non-breaking space + Additional Issue with UTF-8, Gregg Reynolds
- Re: Issues: Character 160 - Non-breaking space + Additional Issue with UTF-8, Gregg Reynolds
- Re: Issues: Character 160 - Non-breaking space + Additional Issue with UTF-8, Frédéric van der Plancke