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- Subject: Re: Lua Foundation?
- From: Jeff Rouse <jeffr@...>
- Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 09:59:17 -0700
I applaud everyone on the interesting foundation discussion and as I
believe that a foundation for an open source language gives it more
credibility, focus, and helps it to grow.
As a little bit of history, ActiveState was the founding member of the
Python Foundation, and have worked with the Perl Foundation on a variety
of initiatives over the years. We would support the creation of a Lua
Foundation, and would contribute to its formation, but as always we
leave it to the community at large to decide if this is something that
they feel they would benefit from.
Just as an update we are moving towards our beta Lua distro in September
and are looking forward to increasing our engagement with the Lua community.
On 2017-04-21 1:31 AM, Russell Haley wrote:
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Daurnimator <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
On 19 April 2017 at 02:53, Andrew Starks <email@example.com> wrote:
Has something like the idea of a Lua Foundation ever come up?
The reason that I ask is because there seem to be many opportunities to
explore, all of which require some kind of momentum to be formed or strict
adherence to Lua's specific mission. As a result, many efforts feels like
hearding cats or sounding like an unwanted extension to Lua itself.
I'm curious what you think can be solved by a "Foundation" that can't
be solved by us, the community.
The main purpose for such a foundation might be as a legal entity and
touch point for large organisations that don't know how to deal with
It might be capable of
- applying for grants
- holding bank accounts for community funds
- being named as party to insurance (e.g. for conferences)
- being blessed by governments
At the moment these are generally not done at all, by private parties,
or sometimes via PUC-Rio and/or LabLua.
I wouldn't be opposed to such an organisation, but I'm not entirely
sure what problems you're solving for.
I also have questions about where such a foundation should be
founded/based to solve the legal issues it's designed to solve.
I think the FreeBSD Foundation serves as an excellent model for Lua.
FreeBSD is it's own entity. The FreeBSD Foundation is a separate
entity that manages the following sorts of things:
- collects donations for FreeBSD
- organizes community efforts and provides funding from donations
- provides advocacy such as special presentations at universities,
events and some publications (notably the FreeBSD Journal)
- provides resources for distribution (build servers, resources, bandwidth etc)
- helps direct and shape projects that the board recognizes as
valuable to the community
The board is made up of current and past commiters and other people
and has some full time staff.
A Lua foundation would be an excellent organization for providing
"with batteries" distributions and many of the other things people
feel the community isn't providing well enough.
On the flip side, companies like ActiveState can provide leadership in
the area of binaries and distribution if there really is any market
for it. But then again, where does a company go if they want to donate
resources to Lua? Is PUC-Rio capable of working with for profit
companies on that sort of thing? Maybe that is also where a Foundation