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2014-11-02 23:10 GMT+02:00 Geoff Down <geoffdown@fastmail.net>:

> If Luiz is offended, I regret that - but he hasn't said so.

Luiz is the model for all of us to aim at: knows what he is talking
about and sticks to the point. The closest he ever gets to taking
offence is to declare a thread closed, at a stage when most other
people are, well, sick of it.