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On Friday 18 February 2005 22:11, PA wrote:
> On Feb 18, 2005, at 22:06, Glenn Maynard wrote:
> > I'm not saying one can't; I'm saying one normally does not.  Lua is an
> > extension language; extending is what it's good at.  If you're writing
> > a whole application in it, you'll quickly find out what the difference
> > is--it's not good at it, and isn't supposed to be.
> Perhaps... time will tell... on the other hand... if people didn't
> experiment with Lua in new and weird ways... Lua would still languish
> as an obscure "data entry language" of sort:

I use Lua as a scripting language, to knock up simple throwaway programs 
quickly. The two most complex programs I've written in it are a Makefile 
generator --- which works very nicely --- and a C++ preprocessor that expands 
special syntax for our platform. Both of these highlighted Lua's problems as 
an application programming language; basically, it's not scalable. It's very, 
very good at writing *small* pieces of code and very, very bad at writing 
*large* pieces of code. You can get around this with discipline, but frankly 
if I was writing a large application I'd use something else --- Ruby, 

Lua's biggest problem when writing large applications is the hoary old 
chestnut of misspelt global variables. It's *amazingly* painful not to be 
warned if you misspell a variable name... your program just doesn't work, 
sometimes in strange ways. A lesser problem is the fact that variables are 
global unless specified local, which is the opposite to most other languages.

Personally, I don't think these are big issues; Lua's not an application 
programming language, it's an extension language, and the requirements are 
different. Perhaps one day it would be nice to have a different compiler for 
the VM, whose input language had a different emphasis, but I don't see it 
happening soon. I also don't see Lua's semantics being changed, because the 
existing semantics are too useful for Lua's primary purpose.

"Curses! Foiled by the chilled dairy treats of righteousness!" --- Earthworm 
Jim (evil)