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- Subject: Re: Suggestion: no more proposals, only suggestions
- From: Andrew Starks <andrew.starks@...>
- Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2015 11:01:57 -0500
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 2:20 AM, Dirk Laurie <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> A proposal has the following properties:
> 1. The proposer wants it incorporated in a future Lua and is
> not interested in ways to achieve the same effect by exploiting
> current features.
> 2. The proposer continues arguing, rebutting all criticism, even
> when almost nobody seems to like the proposal.
> A suggestion has the following properties:
> 1. Well thought out, so that everything that needs to be said
> is said and everything irrelevant is omitted.
> 2. The poster offers it as something to be discussed and does
> not enter the discussion again unless requested to.
Perhaps instead of *proposal*, an *observation*? An observation is:
A short narrative that describes a reality. In particular, a reality
that could be improved upon by some form of change.
My observations are that...
This is unenforceable. Therefore, instead of correcting or scolding
(even long-time people), I/we might write an observation for someone
who has gone through the trouble of making a proposal, and they can
correct that observation and that will put the proposal on the right
track. (?) Or, suggest they write an observation. Or ignore the
Ignoring a proposal is the fastest way to quiet it and all other proposals.
Observations are assertable.
Observations are a good conversational tool for getting the right
people (the people you're trying to persuade) to consider the issue as
a real issue.
[At this point, I keep typing for hours and generate a Great Wall of
Text, so I'll stop here. The "human thing" is something that I think a
great deal about, so this topic will always get me to post...]