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On Feb 9, 2008 7:16 AM, Stefan Sandberg <> wrote:
> I don't agree with anything you just wrote.. The hobbyists much more
> 'define' the software industry than 9-5 cubicle'ites as yourself..

Eh?  I'm a telecommuter and self-employed since 1998.  I believe in
consulting for $$$$$, then reinvesting some of the proceeds into Open
Source projects that are likely to lead to more $$$$$.  Open Source
projects achieve the greatest commercial relevance by having a
business model.

> Not a single one of the friends I know that are good programmers started
> doing anything even remotely close to profitable or "job" related stuff..

I've also done plenty of $0 ideologically driven Open Source.  Yes it
makes one a better programmer, but it's not very smart from an eating
or an impact standpoint.

> One grand example of this is the demoscene (,

I'd be happy to debate this on or your favorite game
development forum.  I would have responded to your post privately, but
I wanted to state for the record that I'm not a cubicle jock.

> At least that's how I got into "official" programming, and I'm not
> worried about loosing a job etc, I'd be just as happy doing construction
> or babysitting or deodorant smell-tester etc,
> but I will NEVER stop doing what I love, something you probably don't
> understand.

It's true that I don't.  My goal is to be well paid for doing what I
love.  You can do that too.  Your happiness doesn't have to be "on the

Brandon Van Every