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- Subject: Re: Portable binary distribution of Lua 5.3.3 (32bit on Windows 10) with some batteries
- From: Nagaev Boris <bnagaev@...>
- Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 21:35:09 +0300
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 9:20 PM, Pavel Drotar <gmc1@azet.sk> wrote:
> I'm pretty shocked with such type of reaction. May be you are proficient in C (luautf8 is cool module) or in 20 other languages and people here loves you and you love Hisham, but from human point of view you are simply stupid.
How can you write such things to people you do not know?
>> Hi dear Hisham,
>>
>> I love Lua language, and now my hobby is writing Lua C module for fun.
>> But I found luarocks is far more difficult to maintain all my modules.
>>
>> I have several modules, but maintain them are very difficult. After
>> make changes, I had to:
>> - test on many platform
>> - assign a new version (and a new version to rockspec itself)
>> - update my rockspecs
>> - commit it to github
>> - make a release
>> - write release note
>> - make a source rock
>> - login in luarocks.org, and upload this rock (I still can not find
>> out how to use upload command of luarocks)
>>
>> I know, I know, npm is a company, and luarocks is freeware, no one pay
>> for you for it. I know mostly is I don't know how to use luarocks,
>> it's not luarocks' fault. But it really makes me unhappy! I even
>> doesn't have once success when type "luarocks install luarocks". I use
>> my own layout of Lua (build it myself to support both MinGW and MSVC),
>> so everytime I upgrade luarocks (yes, by hand), I will carefully
>> manually edit config.lua to make luarocks happy. I just hope when I
>> want to make some changes to my module, I only need commit to github,
>> and give it a tag, and users can happily use luarocks update
>> <rockname> to get lastest result. I hope I (and users) could get
>> binary modules directly, static linked with libcmt.lib, optimized well
>> and lies comfortably in my own Lua installations, no need fight with
>> the terrible build environment on Windows. I hope everything could
>> easy as npm or cpan or pacman or even brew. But currently luarocks
>> really makes me feel bad.
>>
>> But I still love luarocks, it's the only package manager of Lua
>> language. Lua is so perfect, but have not huge modules like Python. I
>> hope someday I could use Lua to make everything I make in Python
>> before. Because write Lua is SO FREEDOM! I only hope it could be
>> better. it may have a cache system, needn't download rocks times and
>> times when build failure (and I manually use "download" command to
>> solve it). it may split build system and other misc things into
>> standalone rocks, to build a rocks, just a little script(just like
>> brew) requiring some standard rocks module, it will done
>> automatically. it may support github or bitbucket or whatever directly
>> and needn't require a "url" entry in rockspecs file. it may
>> download(and upload) binary modules by default, and author could
>> easily upload them own. it support local deps repo and global repo as
>> well (just like package.json and node_modules directory things of
>> npm). I hope use luarocks makes me happy, makes life easy, and makes
>> more and more people start to use Lua to solve daily task.
>>
>> Still thanks for write this great software for Lua. I know it becoming
>> better and better now. I just hope it could be the best.
>>
>> Sorry for my noise.
>>
>> --
>> regards,
>> Xavier Wang.
>
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Best regards,
Boris Nagaev