Re: Proposal: Proposals are the wrong approach [prose and long]

[Coroutines <coroutines@...>]

On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Philipp Janda <siffiejoe@gmx.net> wrote:

> And it wasn't at that time. The ability to use arbitrary uservalue values
> will (most likely) come with Lua 5.3.

Yes, I'm saying I identified that hole (me me meeeee) -- as you could
only associate a table to userdata, and the best you could do to save
on memory would be to share that table among the userdata you create
and make that table weakly-referenced to get from it the userdata you
would have otherwise paired directly.  IIRC, Luiz gave me that
solution, but it was the best you could do and I remember reading a
lot of replies that weren't working within my constraints for the
problem.  The main concern was memory use, as I was creating a lot of
userdata.

Then it led off on that tangent about libraries segfaulting and from
there on I was still right all the time.  Yep, rereading the thread
confirms.

> Some (most?) people who propose a change to Lua have an actual problem they
> would like solved, and a new feature can only solve it in future Lua
> versions (if accepted at all), so suggestions how one can tackle the problem
> in current Lua versions might be appreciated.

I did appreciate the [best] solution I got from (Luiz?) -- it just
took a lot of wading through "Well why would you..." at the beginning.