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It was thus said that the Great Stefan Reich once stated:
> I think we should have a new Lua-related talking place (slightly
> generalizing the term 'mailing list' here) with these fundamental
> properties:
> 
> - a positive spirit
> - absolutely free expression of personal emotion, no matter what kind of
> emotion it is.

  Aren't these mutually exclusive?  If I don't have a positive spirit, can I
express such?  

  -spc (I'm just saying ... )