Re: promoting Lua

[Asko Kauppi <askok@...>]

Luasucksless.org ? :)

One thing that would be so nice to have is optional typing. I think  
Python 3 has that (correct if I'm wrong). And C# has something  
similar, coming from the other direction.

Lua with optional static type checking would expand the use of the  
language much. And we've shown it can be done.

- asko

On 29.10.2009, at 18.58, Andrew Wilson <agrwagrw@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Patrick,
>
> Tutorials are a great way to promote Lua.
>
> I believe Ruby on Rail filled a need so adding something you find
> useful to a lua library or lua  is certainly a good way to promote
> lua.
>
> LuaForge is currently being redesigned
> http://groups.google.com/group/luaforge-development that should help
> promote lua.
>
> Maybe luadoesnotsuck.org ??
>
> Cheers
> Andrew
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Patrick
> <spell_gooder_now@spellingbeewinnars.org> wrote:
> > As I was saying I am new to Lua and I have not finished with the  
> > basics
> > but again I am already in love with it. Once I am competent I would  
> > like
> > to start promoting the language and I was wondering what would be  
> > best.
> >
> > I thought I could do some screencast tutorials.
> >
> > When I was learning PHP, Python and now C/C++, one of the first  
> > things I
> > did/do was search for Python sucks, PHP sucks etc. BTW this also  
> > works
> > well with hosting providers to dig up dirt.
> >
> > Lua sucks actually comes up with few results and the complaints are
> > rather silly but still I was thinking about registering  
> > luasucks.org or
> > something similar. I was thinking it might be helpful to try to "own"
> > this keyword and displace others on the net. It could be a place to
> > dispel myths about Lua(I.E it's a gaming language) and ways to  
> > mediate
> > justifiable complaints.
> >
> > I watch the Tiobe index a lot and it has affected my decisions but  
> > I am
> > wondering how valid it is. Even if it is not valid it's probably a  
> > force
> > we have to deal with. As of October 2009 Lua is at position 20.
> >
> > Ruby was no where before Rails but I don't believe the language  
> > changed
> > so much, people just discovered it once they saw it's usefulness in  
> > one
> > application. Now Ruby has momentum and I bet it would still be  
> > popular
> > without Rails. It seems like programmers may have a herding  
> > instinct and
> > just want to follow the pack. This could work against Lua.
> >
> > It looks like the Delphi community has intentional manipulated Tiobe,
> > please see:
> >
> > http://blog.timbunce.org/2009/05/17/tiobe-index-is-being-gamed/
> >
> > The call went out to put "Delphi programming on every page in visible
> > text (update the template). Stand up and be counted" and it worked  
> > and
> > Tiobe congratulated them for it apparently. Do we need to do the  
> > same?
> > Or should we educate people about the dangers of Tiobe's methodology?
> > Doing nothing might not be a good idea.
> >
> > -Patrick