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- Subject: Re: LuaForge is down and will be for some time
- From: Fabio Mascarenhas <mascarenhas@...>
- Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 03:23:25 -0300
I just want to mention that moving Kepler to github was not a
renunciation of LuaForge, I think having a central index of Lua
libraries is very important, and I am not the only one that thinks
this can be done with a much simpler platform than Gforge. More
importantly, I think it can be done with a Lua-based platform,
probably something based on Sputnik.
André has been warning for some time that LuaForge was pretty much on
life support, and this crisis is a good time for the community to move
on; there are plenty of options for online SCM repositories, issue
trackers, mailing lists... after LuaForge gets back online I am
infavor of setting a grace period for anyone to move those parts of
their projects elsewhere, and bootstrap a new site with the catalog
I also spoke with Hisham that now is a great time to move the main
LuaRocks repository to luarocks.org, with the release of LuaRocks 2.0
imminent. He agrees and assured me that he was going to do that.
Fabio Mascarenhas, Lablua
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Alexander Gladysh <email@example.com> wrote:
>> I'm really sorry for the trouble this have caused for everyone using
>> LuaForge services and I hope we can have everything back asap.
>> Meanwhile, I'd like to know what you think about eventually moving
>> from this setup based on GForge to one based on something else. One
>> option would be to recommend that projects moved their SCM to sites
>> like github or Google Code and then leave luaforge.net as just a
>> catalog and news site.
> I do not have any projects hosted on LuaForge, so I do consider my
> opinion should have much weight in this issue. But here it is anyway.
> I'm very sorry to say so, but current situation with LuaForge
> stability looks truly horrible. In my opinion, it really hurts Lua
> community reputation.
> Besides stability issues, LuaForge is seriously outdated as a service.
> GitHub, Google Code, Sourceforge all have much superior features (and
> they do not force users to use CVS). It is hard to see why anyone
> would use LuaForge to host their project, except maybe to emphasise
> that "this project belongs to Lua world".
> I would (partially) understand that situation, if LuaForge itself was
> written in Lua (which some people do assume). Then there would be
> sense to develop it, to bring it up to date. It'd grow a framework of
> libraries (or a bunch of code anyway), that would be highly useful for
> the community.
> I think, that, given the lack of resources, it would be impossible to
> bring LuaForge up to current project hosting de-facto standards. It
> would be even harder to keep it up-to date with them over the time.
> Unless someone is willing to give a grant on this, this would not
> It is an option to leave Lua forge as it is after restoring it. But, I
> think, more and more projects would leave it over time. We can see
> this happening already. Even Kepler is on GitHub now
> (http://github.com/keplerproject). Such drain is not healthy.
> There are a lot of great non-specialized project hosting sites. It is
> hard to beat them with features. It is hard to have features that
> would suit anyone. Some people prefer to host source code themselves
> even now. I'd say, LuaForge needs to be converted to aggregator for
> Lua-related projects. Ohloh (ohloh.com) seems to be a good model for
> such aggregator. Add Lua snippets, LuaRocks support, and you're almost
> My 2c.