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On Feb 19, 2008, at 12:38 AM, John Belmonte wrote:

Nevertheless, give the right circumstances I'm not ruling out a Lua
implementation.  In fact, a few months ago I tried to reach Daniel
Silverstone about migrating to his Aranha Wiki engine.

Is there any information about Aranha's wiki engine anywhere?

http://www.digital-scurf.org/software/aranha

Perhaps it would be worthwhile adding Aranha's wiki to the comparison page:

http://alt.textdrive.com/assets/public/Nanoki/WikiComparison.html

 Anyway, the reasons I would
consider that wiki are:  1) it painstakingly emulates the current Lua
wiki markup;

Is such wiki markup documented anywhere? Is there any existing Lua library to handle it?

 2) it preserves idioms of the current wiki (e.g.
clicking on title yields referring pages);

Then Nanoki is not for you if this is such a show stopper :))

Clicking on the page title leads to the editor, the most likely action you want to perform on a wiki page. The related pages are at the bottom of the content, where they naturally belong :))

Of course, there is no accounting for taste, so this could theoretically be changed to suit the prevalent fashion in wiki design.


 3) its interface and
usability are very simple (e.g. simple preferences page, registration
not required for editing);

Hmmm... why a preference page?

 and 4) it is strict about web standards.

Any wiki engine can be strict about web standards... but... a wiki is mostly defined by the free form content that people put there... there is not much a wiki engine can do to prevent invalid HTML in a free form text without undesirable obstructionism...

I'm not interested in trading a big mess of Perl for a big mess of Lua.

Arguably, the later would fit better with what lua-users.org aims to represent.

Functionality to automatically deal with spam is absolutely critical
for a popular, no-registration wiki such as as lua-users.

Yes, at this point this is really the only technical hurdle for any new wiki engine, as by definition they do not have the accumulated years of experience preventing spam.

But they could learn from lua-users.org wiki's experience. What specific anti-spam technics does lua-users.org use presently?

Also... is the full source code of the current lua-users.org wiki implementation available anywhere?

Cheers,

PA.