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On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:14:30 +0200
"Frans Slothouber" <> wrote:

> For instance take a programmer who has been making websites
> using php and sql for many years.
this is not a programmer. imho. %-))

programmer *must* know such things as assemble language, bit
arithmetic, stacks, etc. others can do something that might be call
"programs" but they aren't programmers.

imho. %-)