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In the construction industry we have a saying that applies here:

Chaos creates cash.

The more complex and downright irritating a task is the more you can charge
someone to do it for them.  This is the only line of reasoning I can see
leading to the position that vendor takes.  I'm just glad I don't work for

Korean programmers learn english programming languages instead of localized
versions as well.  English is not an easy language for them to learn because
the grammar is very different from their native language, but they do it
this way anyway.  I believe that english is not necessarily the best
language for any given task, but since it's already the standard it should
be used.  When your students finish with your course they will find that
they have to learn it anyway, so why coddle them.

Heck, if I were you I'd start 'em off with an introduction to assembly.
After that everything seems easy....


-----Original Message-----
[]On Behalf Of David Burgess
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:04 AM
To: Lua list
Subject: Re: Teach programming with LUA?

Believe it or not I have met people trained by a large software vendor
who are encouraged to believe that mixed language systems are
a good thing.

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 14:44:12 +0100, Enrico Colombini <> wrote:
> On Tuesday 23 November 2004 10:17, Philippe Lhoste wrote:
> > And things got confusing with some versions,
> > as you hit F1 to get help on a given keyword, and see the help in
> > French, but about English keywords, so you had to guess the French
> > version of the given parameters...
> Same here in Italy. I just went through an even worse "translation hell"
in a
> Psion application meant to syncronize a palmtop's agenda (etc.) with Lotus
> Organizer. I had to search around for hours and guess at the English names
> and pathnames to be entered instead of the documented/default Italian ones
> (and vice-versa) to make that link work at last.
> The only exception I'd probably make for using standard English names in
> programming is primary school.
>   Enrico