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On 22/06/2023 00:32, Mouse wrote:
[David Favro]It's becoming increasingly hard to keep browsers from redirecting to https, $Almost as hard as it is to get people stop using paragraph-length lines, in fact! [Rob Kendrick]lua-users.org does not as it stands do TLS (and never has): any web browser, search engine, plugin that assumes it does is broken and there is literaly nothing I can do about that.Thank you very much for taking that stance. I have been growing increasingly despondent over the stampede to waste my CPU cycles with TLS (well, to try to; most often, what they actually do is just drive me away) and it is always very nice to find a holdout.
The problem is that today most browsers, if not all, are meant for a very tech-unsavy audience, who do know nothing about https vs http and the risks that are behind http (and when there are none). That's where the market is, for good or bad.
As annoying that is for tech-savy people, fighting that is like asking car makers to remove all airbags because they add too much weight and we know what we are doing. It's not gonna happen.
Most people using a browser nowadays barely knows what an URL is. They simply type search keywords on a search engine and start from there, possibly bookmarking the one they use the most. So there is a good chance they could click on a link for (say) "micrsoft.com" [sic] without even realizing it's not what they think it is.
I, too, miss the times when Firefox allowed extension to do almost anything with its interface and internal workings. I had forcefully to switch to the newer Quantum versions because the older dev line wouldn't support newer technology any longer (I couldn't even access my home-banking account or my school MS-teams account). So I had to switch, losing lots of extensions with consequent loss of useful data I saved during over a decade. Let alone a general slowdown of my workflow due to the GUI being more "dumbproof" and many options being removed or tucked away under the hood.
Lesson learned: now any information I'm interested in preserving I save it in PDF form or, if I can't do that, using a "webpage-snapshot" tool, that saves all the webpage locally with all the resources needed to reproduce it in a different browser.
Another holdout, I suppose I should say. I've met a few others. /~\ The ASCII Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse@rodents-montreal.org / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B
Cheers! --Lorenzo