Re: [ANN] Rails Girls Summer of Code applications are open and there's a Lua project

["Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov" <lua-l@...>]

18.03.2016 02:39, Etiene Dalcol writes:
>> where is equality?
> You've got to be kidding. Nope.

No, it is.

In discussion of the thesis, that indicative discrimination of members
of major group by members of minor group, it doesn't matter that 95%
developers (moreover, not even "around the world", but just from some
pople, that chosen to complete survey on some QA-site) is from major group.

It is very bad practice to try to achieve equality by claiming "we're
under discrimination, so we'll discriminate in return". Very, very and
very bad. If you're standing for *equality* you should be consistent
(and operate logic, but not emotions) and be for true *equality* (!),
but not to earn political points by reverse-discrimintion.

We're (me and people who ready to sign under that my e-mail) are for
real *equality*. We're open for everyone, irrelevant of their individual
qualities. Even for non-humanoid lifeforms (say, AI or cats). The only
requirements is to talk in that way, that community can understand, and
get rid of *any* kind of politics (i.e. discussions on gender, religion,
race or any other political topics are not welcomed, to not produce such
flame). Only business. Just go and do it, and we'll help you if we can.

That *is* equality. But not that thing, that such political
organisations state.


And moreover, there should *not* be the target to achieve equal
gender/sexual/race or whatever indxes in statistics. Everyone should do
the things they love to, and they thinks they're have enough
professional skills, but not just be minor group member and extort
special conditions.

If there is a situation that 99.(9)% of professionals in some sector
shares many similar signs, so let it be. Nobody should force them to
everything, except be polite and helpful.

And everytime anyone states anything like "there are 99.(9)% of X'ers in
D!! Let's achieve equal statistic indexes! Otherwise it is
discrimination of Y'ers!" it is 146% of political bullshit and facts
juggling just to earn some political points.

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TL;DR:
If woman want to be a programmer — she became a 1st-class programmer
(say, my wife).
If woman want to do the science — she doing the science: Marie Curie,
Laura Bassi, Emilie du Chatelet, Maria Agnesi, Ada Lovelace, Mary Anning
and many other.
If woman want to be a professional in any sector — she go and become a
professional!


All the same for (".*"):gsub("woman",return_any_minor_group_member()).

Any other talks about that topic is demagogy and should go to the hell.

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Best regards,
mva