Re: Upstream is not the last word (was Re: [ANN] Lua 5.1.5 (rc1) now available)

[Axel Kittenberger <axkibe@...>]

So this thread is complaining once again, instead of doing or
suggesting anything concrete?

At the end it boils down to single persons standing up for it. Like
Mike Pall doing LuaJIT; also without any "blessing", so can we just
ban that word for god? I'll bless you all!

stdlib and penlight are laudable efforts, they just don't yet cut it.
Nor have the focus to be a proper overall meta-system.

My personal best candidate for a new umbrella is Luvit. Like node.js
turned out to be the common platform for tons of javascript stuff. It
just misses documentation :-) As far I can say Tim started with
offering a good module system, similar to CommonJS.

- Axel

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 3:21 PM, KHMan <keinhong@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2/13/2012 9:07 PM, Alex Queiroz wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Jon Akhtar wrote:
>>>
>>> Perhaps if we could get an endorsement on the result from upstream,
>>> and either inclusion in the release (as an external source based
>>> library), or at least a link off of the main page. Otherwise - it is
>>> sort of pointless to bless one library vs another.
>>
>>
>> I should start counting how many times this common library discussions
>> come full circle and end up nowhere. Maybe this is the 500th one. I'll
>> just put a counter on "bless" and "blessed".
>>
>> I really have no idea what's with people and blessing.
>
>
> Yeah, but I suppose we should trundle out some old arguments for the benefit
> of the new folks... :-) :-) :-)
>
> What a Lua+everything thingy needs is stable leadership, management and
> manpower. Not to mention absorbing small projects under one umbrella. Until
> that is created and we have a thingy shipping for a few quarters, there is
> no use to ask for blessing. But a long-term thingy is harder to start and
> run than it looks (for a small community)... it's not like this is the first
> time people are discussing it, as Alex says.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Kein-Hong Man (esq.)
> Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
>