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- Subject: Re: Delayed evaluation of expressions
- From: Jerome Vuarand <jerome.vuarand@...>
- Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 19:37:52 +0200
2011/7/1 steve donovan <steve.j.donovan@gmail.com>:
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Jerome Vuarand
> <jerome.vuarand@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I understand that this "by-name" mechanism requires the compiler to
>> know the callee prototype at the caller site,
>
> Also, the programmer needs to know the prototype ;) I'm thinking here
> of C++ reference parameters, which are less obvious than the old C
> pass-a-pointer method. C# actually has a keyword 'ref' to make such
> parameters stand out more.
>
> So, assuming a list object that can be filtered, we could ask for a
> list of all positive elements like so:
>
> lpos = ls:filter(lazy _ > 0)
>
> where lazy <expr> is short for function(_) return <expr> end
>
> Having an explicit keyword/macro/whatever 'lazy' feels better than an
> implicit quoting for arguments to this kind of function.
The problem with a single keyword is that you have no end delimiter,
and therefore you cannot return multiple values, but maybe that's nice
enough.
I think a goal for all that lazy stuff, would be to allow programmers
use Lua in more functional style, while keeping its simple syntax. For
example it would be nice to be able to write:
local x = 0
mywhile x < 10 do
x = x + 1
print(x)
end
Let's dream a bit. With 1. your lazy keyword proposal, 2. a "do end"
short syntax for "function() end", and 3. the ability to avoid
parenthesis around "do end" lambda constructors like it is already the
case for table and string constructors (but that would introduce
ambiguities in current syntax), we could get:
local x = 0
mywhile (lazy x < 10) do
x = x + 1
print(x)
end
which is pretty close to the goal, with mywhile defined as:
local function mywhile_helper(condition, action)
if condition() then
action()
-- return for tail call optimization
return mywhile_helper(condition, action)
end
end
function mywhile(condition)
return function(action)
return mywhile_helper(condition, action)
end
end