Re: teach your Grandma prototypical inheritance? was (Uncommon OOP in Lua: right or wrong?)

["Patrick Mc(avery" <spell_gooder_now@...>]

Thanks very much Scott

I am looking forward to learning about your pattern matching library 
too. Thanks for all your great guidance.

Just a couple more thoughts on the OO thing...

Two things that have stuck in my head. One during Roberto's talk at 
Stanford, he mentioned that Lua's OO system confounds programmers(or 
something to this effect) and two, this email thread from last year:

http://lua-users.org/lists/lua-l/2009-09/msg00590.html

The original poster had said that Lua was a "gateway drug" to Python. I 
could not disagree with this more. I would not have had a prayer to get 
this far(which is not so far indeed) with Lua if I did not spend several 
months with Python first. I think it is a great language but the build 
your own mechanism thing only works for advanced programmers, as proved 
by the calibre of the people on this list.

It might be nice to have simpler mechanisms to get your feet wet.

I think there is a kind of unintentional mass misdirection of new 
programmers on the internet. I spent an enormous amount of time trying 
to figure out how to put a data driven website together and bought all 
kinds of book and tore out lots of perfectly good hair. In the end I 
realized that I could build all my websites from just a few Lua scripts 
offline and just upload them as static content, no other tools required 
not even SQLite. The code for this is an utter disgrace but the end 
products are outranking many other companies with literally >1000X the 
revenue of mine. Yet there is almost no information on the net about 
offline database(or Lua table)driven development.

I have had to postpone my screencast series but once I get it finished I 
am hoping that it will introduce many of these subjects in a simpler 
manner. PIL is a great book but by page 47 you already hit closures 
while in learning Python your hit closures at page 321.

There so much power here for me yet to uncover, it's just been a maze to 
get this far-Patrick