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- Subject: object identity/address and hashing
- From: spir <denis.spir@...>
- Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:54:13 +0100
Hello,
Some questions on the topic of object identity/address, and hashing:
-1- Is the object identity internally implemented as its actual memory address?
-2- Is there a way to get this value (like python's id() func)
(I wrote
local adr = tonumber(string.sub(tostring(obj), 8))
waiting for a better solution ;-)
-3- I read somewhere that table key hashes (*) are obtained from key adresses (or identities, as opposed to hashing data itself). Is this correct? If yes, what kind of hash formula/algorithm is then used?
-4- If the above is true, then why isn't this the common way, since it seems to have only advantages:
* The input type is constant, thus permits a specialised func.
* Anyway, it cannot be simpler (integer).
* Hashing the id allows any type of key, as the id is constant by definition. (Constrast: hashing the data only allows data types which are guaranteed to be constant = immutable. see python issues)
-5- The simplest way to hash integers is certainly to get the modulo N, where N is the number of indexes (and of "buckets" in case of collisions). What about this simplissim solution?
-6- By exploring this topic, I discovered (on my computer) a minimal offset of 8 bytes between addresses (I mean they are assigned modulo 8). (Thus, addresses must be divided per 8 before beeing hashed.) Has this something to do with Lua?
Denis
(*) What's the common name for "return value of a hash func" in english?
(In french we commonly say "empreinte", meaning _print_ like in "finger print", but there are other words depending on use case.)
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