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Fabio Mascarenhas wrote:
I was one of the five present (counting Jim) on the thursday chat. Far
from being a secret meeting, this was just an informal chat in a rainy
afternoon, and I am amazed at the level of controversy it has caused,
but I guess this is always a risk with communicating online. If we
didn't send an email to the list right after our chat it was because
Jim was the one taking notes, not for any desire to keep things

Now that LuaForge is mostly back up (and I am in favor of not fixing
non-anonymous CVS access, as an incentive for everyone that is still
keeping source trees there to move it ASAP; git cvsimport is your
friend) we can all take a deep breath and take our time.

Yep, now that the whole community knows that Jim is in the team, there isn't likely to be any more misunderstandings.

As a bystander, I think the problem was lack of context. Without being aware of what was happening in the workshop, those not clued in were left surprised. It was legitimate to question Jim's motives, since I believe we lacked essential information about the actual relationships between parties at that time. Based on list postings only, at first I was also wondering what was going on.

Of course, it got a bit heated, but I think since both sides were thinking rather different things, it was a communications failure that could also happen to any of us.

So I think it's all good now. LuaForge is a primary Lua resource for me, and we take it for granted until it blows up, heh. ;-) To Jim, Andre and everyone taking action and taking charge, two thumbs up from me.

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Jim Whitehead II wrote:

Kein-Hong Man (esq.)
Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia