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David Kastrup wrote:
Adrien de Croy <adrien@qbik.com> writes:I agree in the context of OS threads, it refers to an independent call stack and context.What do you mean with context?
in an OS thread, the context includes things like CPU registers etc.
a thread is a simple object. A scheduler pre-empts threads, the thread does not pre-empt itself.Process memory is shared and accessible to all threads of a process. Stack variables however, belong to the thread whose stack they reside in. re-entrable code vs yielding or being pre-empted are independent concepts to that of a thread.Uh what? A thread that is neither preempted nor yields is not a thread.
So the concept of pre-empting or yielding are indeed independent concepts to the concept of a "thread". Related / linked maybe but they are their own concepts.
where did I say that a thread that is neither pre-empted NOR yields is not a thread? those are your words not mine. My words were "independent concepts". That does not imply mutual exclusivity, merely independence. Things can be independent without having to be mutually exclusive.
Since a lua thread provices another call stack, and has its own context, I think it qualifies to be called a thread.I don't see an "own context" in any sensible meaning of the word, and of course coroutines all have their own stack. That's the whole point of them. The difference between coroutines and threads is that coroutines have a single flow of control. That means that there is no necessity for any locking in coroutines. The sequence of operations is uniquely determined by yielding. That is no different to subroutine calls, _except_ that yielding does not leave the call stack of the current coroutine and reenters at the same place. Essentially wrapping a function body into one endless loop with a yield at the end is pretty much the same from a transfer of control view than returning.
Actually the issue I was attempting to address was the question raised about whether it was correct to call a lua thread a thread at all. I believe it has the requirements to be validly called a thread.
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