Re: TechRepublic article about languages to avoid in 2018

[Mason Bogue <scythe+lua@...>]

The trouble is that the Lua ecosystem has become so fragmented after
5.1. The changes in 5.2/5.3 seem to have been very unpopular and split
people among three versions. There were always legacy programs written
in old Lua versions, but today people even start new projects in old
versions. Some collaboration between the LuaJIT team and the PUC Lua
team will probably be necessary if the issue is ever to be resolved.
Unfortunately, this seems more unlikely than ever.

Also, Google project announcements do not mean much. Many are "20%
projects" that die within two years. See e.g. unladen-swallow.

On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 2:31 AM, Mauricio Tavares <raubvogel@gmail.com> wrote:
> TechRepublic does remind me of someone in linkedin who gets docs given
> for free and then emails you, the unfortunate who fell for it once, a
> "free document we are offering!  All you have to do is enter your
> contact info! Easy!" message.
>
> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 12:04 PM, Guislain Duthieuw
> <guislain.duthieuw@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Concerning Dart, Google has announced Flutter, a crossplatform mobile
>> framework for native mobile app that uses... Dart.
>> oops TechRepublic ;-)
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 5:18 PM, Coda Highland <chighland@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 2:09 AM, Pierre Chapuis <catwell@archlinux.us>
>>> wrote:
>>> > On Tue, Feb 27, 2018, at 01:32, Coda Highland wrote:
>>> >> unlike Erlang and Dart, which were things with big hype and big
>>> >> promise that ended up not getting traction, Lua is well-established
>>> >> and certainly not going away
>>> >
>>> > I'm sorry but I can't let you say that either...
>>> >
>>> > Regarding Dart, Google has announced Dart 2 a few days ago [1], and is
>>> > making it one of its main languages for client-side application development.
>>> > I wouldn't bury it just yet.
>>> >
>>> > And Erlang... What? Erlang is very similar to Lua in that respect, it is
>>> > well-established and not going away. There is still no alternative to BEAM
>>> > for what it does. If anything I see the Erlang ecosystem growing because
>>> > Elixir is going very strong... yet Codementor still put Elixir at rank 9 in
>>> > their list of languages not to learn.
>>>
>>> I stand by what I said: I'm not saying that Dart and Erlang are bad or
>>> dead, but they both hit a whole ton of hype a couple years ago and now
>>> they've settled down into a stable state where the people who are
>>> using it are using it but they're not the next big thing that everyone
>>> seems to be excited about and "and we're using Dart!" or "and we're
>>> using Erlang!" aren't tag lines that will attract excited new
>>> developers like it used to.
>>>
>>> That said, you're not wrong, either -- that means they're in the same
>>> boat Lua is. They've matured, they've found their position, and
>>> they're surviving based on their usefulness instead of on their hype.
>>>
>>> /s/ Adam
>>>
>>
>