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> On Jan 10, 2015, at 2:44 AM, steve donovan <> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Dirk Laurie <> wrote:
>> This is the point at which even my chutzpah runs out.
> Having recently had precisely this problem with trying to install new
> luaposix (which includes *integrated* curses support [1]) I feel your
> pain.  Finally managed to get a build started with configure and it
> did not know where the curses include files sit on a Debian/Ubuntu
> system.  I suppose that occasionally it's fine to use a sledgehammer
> to kill a mosquitto, but if after all it misses, you end up with a
> broken desk.
> So put me firmly in the Roberto simple, editable makefile camp. I do
> these things with lakefiles these days, but I don't expect everyone to
> subscribe to my religion.
> [1] bad idea, IMHO. Perhaps 1 out of a 100 users of luaposix need
> curses support, and now they must go through extra hoops.

imho the entire “autoconf” mess should be put in a barge, towed into the deep ocean, and dumped.