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On Sep 23, 2013, at 8:09 AM, Jay Carlson <> wrote:

On Sep 22, 2013 9:55 PM, "Tim Hill" <> wrote:

> There is nothing about a mutable value that says it cannot have copy semantics for assignment etc, so your explanation remains incomplete.

Your blood pressure will remain lower if you stop thinking about PHP.

Actually, I wasn't thinking about PHP .. i *never* think about PHP .. I refuse to admit it's existence :) (takes medication…)