RE: Ok, Apple has released its grip

["Nathaniel Lewis" <linux.robotdude@...>]

If you are using the app store.  Now that the DMA stuff has settled out, it is perfectly legal to jailbreak and use Cydia.  You could post such an app there because it isn't apple regulated.  Some has reservations about jail breaking and I understand, I did it because my warranty and contract expired and I wanted to see what it was all about.
							Nathaniel Lewis

-----Original Message-----
From: lua-l-bounces@lists.lua.org [mailto:lua-l-bounces@lists.lua.org] On Behalf Of Martin Voigt
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:21 PM
To: Lua mailing list
Subject: Re: Ok, Apple has released its grip

To me it's simple...As long as you distribute the lua code inside your
app, your app is allowed to run it. If your app downloads lua code, it
is not allowed to run it. Apart from security, apple is protecting
it's itunes store. If you would be able to download and run code from
inside an application, you could easily set up your own "store",
consisting of scripts or whatever, and that goes against apple's
"single source" policy.

bw,
Martin

On 10 September 2010 05:27, Kevin Vermeer <reemrevnivek@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Bulat Ziganshin <bulat.ziganshin@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Alex,
>>
>> Thursday, September 9, 2010, 5:19:17 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> > http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/09/09statement.html
>>
>> i was sure that they just don't want to allow to sell apps w/o
>> AppStore fees. now they say this almost explicitly: "as long as
>> the resulting apps do not download any code"
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>>  Bulat                            mailto:Bulat.Ziganshin@gmail.com
>>
>>
>
> I think that's incorrect.  What they want to do is preserve the security of
> the system (and your data in other apps) by running the code (which is
> relatively static if it doesn't download anything) through some verification
> system.
>
> The question is - Would this allow a Lua interpreter to run on iOS?
> Something where you can type in code or send code from your computer
> wouldn't necessarily be "downloading code" in the language of the press
> release.  However, this is not the language of the official iOS Developer
> License, which is (as of today) located at:
> http://developer.apple.com/programs/terms/ios/standard/ios_standard_agreement_20100909.pdf
>
> The relevant section for readers of this mailing list is Section 3.3.2,
> which reads:
>
> An Application may not download or install executable code. Interpreted code
> may only be used in an Application if all scripts, code and interpreters are
> packaged in the Application and not downloaded. The only exception to the
> foregoing is scripts and code downloaded and run by Apple's built-in WebKit
> framework.
>
> The relevant clause of this section is the part about interpreted code only
> allows scripts "packaged in the Application **AND** not downloaded."  This
> means that applications can be built with Lua (Hooray!), but we still can't
> build an interpreter (Boo!) which would allow typing Lua scripts on the
> device or sending Lua scripts from the PC (which is not downloading).
>
> I'm still not satisfied, but it's a step in the right direction, and may be
> everything some developers want.
>
> Does anyone have a copy of the previous license agreement (would be called
> the iPhone OS SLA), from April or later, so that we can see what's actually
> changed?
>