As an interim solution, Launchpad is open-source. We could use
the source code from that.
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 P7:56
Subject: Re: LuaForge is down and will be for some
I'm a web developer, I do my living remotelly :), In short: a
telecommuter. The fundamental rock for me is communication+reliability, if I
don't have this, my projects simply fail and don't talk about bills... I have
learned a lot of this from Drupal and his Community, it is a leading Open Source
CMS and Web Development Framework. You can do things like groups.drupal.org or openatrium.com :D
So... we can build a new
LuaHub with Lua, but when? do we really have all the
resources(time+money+volunteers) to make it possible and reliable? The problem
is that current LuaForge is unmaintainable right?, so... Why do not temporarily
use *working* stuff?
My hope on this is to awake participation from
community, what about Perl, RoR or Python solutions? I'm sure there are other
alternatives which may fit what *we*(community) need according to the *available
First question: How much are _exactly_ the available
resources for next 12 months? hosting? human resources?
Second question: How
much is the demand? web stats? downloads? common feature requests?
We need to answer this for a serious project, so we can propose a
real solution. Call it sustainable, reliable, cost-effective, viable,
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Stuart P.Bentley <firstname.lastname@example.org>
I think it would be a good plan to remake LuaForge- in Lua,
using the Kepler libraries and what not- as just the things visitors see when
they come to the site: a project aggregator, providing hosting only for
package downloads and project sites, but listing basic information and links
to the relevant pages.
Rather than have it auto-aggregate from a number
of varied sources, however, I think a better plan would be to have it act as a
lightweight hub, which would be used as a single point from which to track
where the homepage is hosted, what repositories (LuaDist, LuaRocks, deb-pkg,
Synaptic, SourceForge, Launchpad, LuaForge itself if package hosting is
supported going forward, etc.) it is distributed/mirrored on and which (if
any) is the development focus "main" host. Registration would be automated for
both users and projects.
It would be primarily used, like the current
site, as a destination for discovery of applications and libraries that use
Lua, categorized by type (application/game with Lua support, Lua
library/module/package, Power Patch, set of Lua scripts), then by field
(games, sound, graphics - the same tree LuaForge already has (although there
might be a different tree for power patches)). Projects could either be
registered by the project's manager/developer, with homepage hosting provided
and editing allowed only for them ("hub page" style), or by anybody who knows
about the project, editable by anyone and owned by no one, but claimable by
the project manager at any time after creation ("wiki entry" style).
would also be useful if it provided homepage hosting for Lua projects (like
the current version's <project>.luaforge.net sites), since many of the alternative hubs that
have been suggested for code hosting and the like do not provide this service
(really, everybody but Sourceforge). The biggest thing LuaForge could
non-redundantly provide (assuming this would be possible) would be Kepler Lua
Page support in project sites. This could be complimented with a page for
adding files for the most common project page setups (such as Sputnik or a set
of Lua scripts that generates pages that look like the Kepler manuals whose
style 90% of LuaForge projects copy). Hosting Lua Pages would also provide a
convenient avenue for library projects to provide a live demo.
stated though, bug tracking and source control are best handled by many other
sites that make this their sole purpose.
I think a good model to work
from would be Launchpad (http://launchpad.net). Once you've registered for an
account, you can create a page for your project simply by following a link and
choosing a long name and a Unix name for it, at which point you enter your
details (project homepage, where the packages are, where the source is, where
the bug tracking is), with opt-in choices for each of the details for services
that Launchpad provides.
"Andre Carregal" <email@example.com> wrote in message
I have bad news about LuaForge, the damage on LuaForge
might take some
time to recover. We have data backups for everything, but
GForge installation is going to take a while. To make things
we are all involved today in the Lua Workshop so this may impact
recovery time too.
The current plan is to create a new GForge
setup and import the data.
If there is anyone on the list with GForge
knowledge, please contact
me off list.
I'll keep the list informed
about the progress on this operation but
our expectations are that this
will certainly take a few days.
Unfortunately, until them we are out of
luck with these services:
luaforge.net main site (catalog, project info, files
issue tracker, forums)
projects FTP (the project_name.luaforge.net sites are up)
Of course this eventual migration
would be possible only after
I'm really sorry for the trouble this have caused for
LuaForge services and I hope we can have everything back
Meanwhile, I'd like to know what you think about
from this setup based on GForge to one based on
something else. One
option would be to recommend that projects moved
their SCM to sites
like github or Google Code and then leave luaforge.net
catalog and news site.
LuaForge is back up (still using
Thanks in advance for your
Fernando P. García, http://www.develcuy.com
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