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Hi Jerome.
Thanks for the response.  I see what you're getting at.

> Such an order is simple enough to understand so you can take it into
> account in your code to avoid the problem you have in your example.
> Here you would have to create the serializer before any userdata that
> may use it in their finalizer.
>

I hadn't thought of a serializer and I may need it yet, but right now,
the issue happens between modules no within modules so I can't solve
this instance of the problem with such a device.

best,
wes