Re: Wizard GUI for X

[Daniel Quintela <dq@...>]

David Given escribió:

> On Wednesday 08 September 2004 06:58, Asko Kauppi wrote:
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> > I think the idea was to do it in X11 native.  Since he's making an
> > installer, the libraries available on the target machine cannot be
> > trusted upon.
> >    
>
>  
That's the idea. ;-)

> In that case he's doomed. If you don't want any library dependencies other the 
> X itself, you get Xlib (basic drawing primitives), Xt (abstract widget 
> toolkit without any actual widgets) and Xaw (very, very primitive and sucky 
> widget toolkit built on Xt), and that's it.
>
> Building a user interface on top of Xaw, a.k.a. Athena, is an excercise in 
> futility. It may give you some idea as to the high regard that they're 
> commonly held in if I tell you that both Gtk and Qt bypass Xaw and Xt 
> completely and just use drawing primitives in an X window. I've developed for 
> Motif, which is another widget set built on top of Xt, and it's not pleasant.
>
> Athena also looks ghastly. Screenshot here:
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> http://www.efalk.org/Widgets/Xaw.gif
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> Yes, the layout management really is as bad as it looks.
>  
I'll have all these things in my mind.

> I think he's probably just going to have to decide to depend on Gtk or Qt. 
> Most Unix platforms these days have both, so it's not really a big deal, and 
> the increase in functionality is *huge*.
>
> (BTW, remember that you can statically link these libraries into your binary, 
> so you don't have to rely on the target system having them installed.)
>
>  
Resistance is not futile!.
Despite the joke, I have to admit that your comments slow down my 
enthusiasm.
I'll do some additional research with native X and, after that, I'll 
decide...

Thanks for helping me to think,
Daniel