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> Jean-Claude Wippler:

> > Markus Huber:

> > Python... I think the syntax system is stupid, because I like
> >           to format it readable:
> > 
> >                             print ("  Function ",Function  )
> >           if Delimiter then print (" Delimiter ",Delimiter ) end
> >                             print ("    String ",String    )
> >                             print ("Expression ",Expression)

> Are you dismissing a language on the basis of visual preferences?

*No* I would like only the freedom to do things in my format/style.
Following 'ARM BBC BASIC V version 1.16 (C) Acorn 1989' excerpts to show
my style in detail:

       CASE INSTR(`Metacharacters$,`ExpressionChar$) OF
       WHEN 0 :REM Isn't a metacharacter
                         `NextChar$+= `ExpressionChar$
                         `NextChar% = NOT `CollectChar%
       WHEN 1 :REM |
                         `NextChar$ = ""
                         `NextChar% = TRUE
       WHEN 2 :REM ~
          `ExpressionFallbackTilde% = `ExpressionPosition%
               `ExpressionFallback% = `ExpressionPosition%
                           `Search% = TRUE
                `InternalDelimiter$ = ""
       WHEN 3 :REM *
               `ExpressionFallback% = `ExpressionPosition%
                           `Search% = TRUE
                `InternalDelimiter$ = `Delimiter$

            IF String_FromPosition% =-1 THEN
               String_FromPosition% = `StringPosition%-(`String$>"")

       WHEN 4 :REM ?
                       `NextInvert% = TRUE
                         `NextChar$ = `Delimiter$
                         `NextChar% = TRUE
       WHEN 5 :REM #
                         `NextChar$+= "0123456789"
                         `NextChar% = NOT `CollectChar%
       WHEN 6 :REM \
                         `NextChar$+= MID$(`InternalExpression$,
                         `NextChar% = NOT `CollectChar%
       WHEN 7 :REM [
                      `CollectChar% = TRUE
       WHEN 8 :REM ]
                      `CollectChar% = FALSE
                         `NextChar% = (`NextChar$>"")
       WHEN 9 :REM !
          IF `CollectChar% THEN
                       `NextInvert% = TRUE
                         `NextChar$+= `ExpressionChar$
                         `NextChar% = NOT `CollectChar%

Ok I shouldn't do that type of program in basic - please forgive. The $
and % are type definitions. The ` is my way to declare this variable as
an library local related. I like upper case commands for a better
readability without syntax coloring. But I use always syntax coloring.

I use simple but strict rules for variable *and function* names:
First of all: the chars ` and _ are reserved to declare the scope.

<Libraryname has to be 4 or more characters long>
<Libraryname>_<Variablename> - global in library; also external use
<Libraryname>`<Variablename> - global in library; only internal use

`<Variablename> - local in library; only used in one function
_<Variablename> - local in library; but also for subfunctions
                  so its a mix between a local and a global type
                  usefull for recursive subfunctions

<Groupname has to be 3 or less characters long>
       Main_<Variablename> - global in program
<Groupname>_<Variablename> - global in main program
                             e.g. Cnf_ for configuration

            <Variablename> - local in main program

I use this system to know always the scope of any variable. Object
orientation can't solve this in 100%. So I use this for procedural as
for object orientated programming too.

Next point I don't like: most languages are using only '}', Lua use
'end', 'until'. But I like the difference between ENDIF, ENDWHILE, NEXT,
and UNTIL. Look at this:

               Do something

You can't say if it is the right order or not. Ok - normaly
blocks/functions should not longer as ~ 50 lines but not seldom it is
very better to do longer things in one chunk. In the following example
you see without knowing the header whats going on:

               Do something

Also I use upper and lower case for Variables:


GetFiletype or GetFileType? Not more difficult as
get_file_type or get_filetype but less chars.

Sorry for driffting away. Conclusion: I would like only the freedom to
do things in my format/style - so we come back to Lua. Lowercase
commands only and no endwhile... is acceptable.

>> PHP... the other side of a language x-thousand commands
>> Perl... to cryptic
>> Ruby... ? never used
>> Pike... more like C I think
>> tcl... ? never used

> Tcl/Tk is not "in".  I have no idea why.  I use it quite a bit.

Michael T. Richter: "I stopped using Tcl/Tk when I first got burned by
the "comments can impact code" problem."

I would like to use any type of comments ;-)